From: Don McKenzie <don@d...>
Date: Mon Jan 31, 2000 2:15am Subject:Re: Started today
Mick Gulovsen wrote:
>
> gday Don,
>
> > It's called a Spam
>
> damn spam!!
>
> > I have two alternatives with this club.
> >
> > 1) Allow only members to post, however when I do this, I have to
> > moderate all potential members messages, as people simply post to the
> > list without subscibing, then I start a round of sending and receiving
> > of messages, so that the potential member joins, and his message is
> > posted, however this means I also moderate spam.
>
> Not exactly sure what you mean here....
What I mean, is a potential member wants assistance or whatever. I post
his message, then have to advise him to "join" the list, then if any
responses come in, I then forward them onto him until I know he has
subscribed. this is awkward and silly.
What I am saying is to tell him/her to join the list, then post his/her
message. That way, they don't miss any responses, so I still moderate
non-members, however it's easy to delete spam with the click of a
button, so rather than confuse the issue, i will allow only members to
post.
That make sense?
Cheers Don...
>
> > 2) Allow any one to post. This means the spams will get posted also.
>
> Definatley NOT!! If they arent on the list then they cant send to the list...
> Simple isnt it? Or am I missing something here?
>
> Mikky
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From: John Orhan <JOrhan@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 31, 2000 3:24am Subject:Re: Started today
My apologies. It would appear that I have created something of a
shitfight...
-----Original Message-----
From: Don McKenzie [mailto:don@d...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2000 1:15
To: simmstick@egroups.com
Subject: [simmstick] Re: Started today
Mick Gulovsen wrote:
>
> gday Don,
>
> > It's called a Spam
>
> damn spam!!
>
> > I have two alternatives with this club.
> >
> > 1) Allow only members to post, however when I do this, I have to
> > moderate all potential members messages, as people simply post to the
> > list without subscibing, then I start a round of sending and receiving
> > of messages, so that the potential member joins, and his message is
> > posted, however this means I also moderate spam.
>
> Not exactly sure what you mean here....
What I mean, is a potential member wants assistance or whatever. I post
his message, then have to advise him to "join" the list, then if any
responses come in, I then forward them onto him until I know he has
subscribed. this is awkward and silly.
What I am saying is to tell him/her to join the list, then post his/her
message. That way, they don't miss any responses, so I still moderate
non-members, however it's easy to delete spam with the click of a
button, so rather than confuse the issue, i will allow only members to
post.
That make sense?
Cheers Don...
>
> > 2) Allow any one to post. This means the spams will get posted also.
>
> Definatley NOT!! If they arent on the list then they cant send to the
list...
> Simple isnt it? Or am I missing something here?
>
> Mikky
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From: Don McKenzie <don@d...>
Date: Mon Jan 31, 2000 3:28am Subject:Re: Started today
Not at all John, i have had several new members post without
subscribing.
In future, I'll just politely let then know that they must subscribe
then send their message, and all is well.
It is the best option i feel, and stops any spam reaching the list.
Cheers Don...
John Orhan wrote:
>
> My apologies. It would appear that I have created something of a
> shitfight...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don McKenzie [mailto:don@d...]
> Sent: Monday, 31 January 2000 1:15
> To: simmstick@egroups.com
> Subject: [simmstick] Re: Started today
>
> Mick Gulovsen wrote:
> >
> > gday Don,
> >
> > > It's called a Spam
> >
> > damn spam!!
> >
> > > I have two alternatives with this club.
> > >
> > > 1) Allow only members to post, however when I do this, I have to
> > > moderate all potential members messages, as people simply post to the
> > > list without subscibing, then I start a round of sending and receiving
> > > of messages, so that the potential member joins, and his message is
> > > posted, however this means I also moderate spam.
> >
> > Not exactly sure what you mean here....
>
> What I mean, is a potential member wants assistance or whatever. I post
> his message, then have to advise him to "join" the list, then if any
> responses come in, I then forward them onto him until I know he has
> subscribed. this is awkward and silly.
>
> What I am saying is to tell him/her to join the list, then post his/her
> message. That way, they don't miss any responses, so I still moderate
> non-members, however it's easy to delete spam with the click of a
> button, so rather than confuse the issue, i will allow only members to
> post.
>
> That make sense?
>
> Cheers Don...
>
> >
> > > 2) Allow any one to post. This means the spams will get posted also.
> >
> > Definatley NOT!! If they arent on the list then they cant send to the
> list...
> > Simple isnt it? Or am I missing something here?
> >
> > Mikky
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From: John Orhan <JOrhan@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 2, 2000 1:06am Subject:'c' program samples
Attn: All
I have just purchased a 'c' compiler by CCS that compiles in PIC code am was
wondering if anyone had any tips on intergrating it with MPLAB and how to
run it from there, and also if anyone had a couple of code samples I could
see just to get things up and running ( templates, code, etc).
Please advise, and many thanks.
Sincerely John Orhan
From: Don McKenzie <don@d...>
Date: Wed Feb 2, 2000 6:00am Subject:Re: 'c' code again
you are posting to a small group at SimmStick John, it's a start up
group as an alternative to the sisusers group.
I suggested the piclist to you, which has 1800 members.
You will get plenty of answers there.
I promise you. Would I lie? :-)
Cheers Don...
John Orhan wrote:
>
> What!
> No one has any tips on the CCS 'c' compiler?
>
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From: John Orhan <JOrhan@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 2, 2000 10:04pm Subject:Re: 'c' code again
Hi Don,
Please forgive my confusion. I thought that was the piclist. I will have
another look on your website.
Sincerely John Orhan
-----Original Message-----
From: Don McKenzie [mailto:don@d...]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2000 5:01
To: simmstick@e...
Subject: [simmstick] Re: 'c' code again
you are posting to a small group at SimmStick John, it's a start up
group as an alternative to the sisusers group.
I suggested the piclist to you, which has 1800 members.
You will get plenty of answers there.
I promise you. Would I lie? :-)
Cheers Don...
John Orhan wrote:
>
> What!
> No one has any tips on the CCS 'c' compiler?
>
> Regards John
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Date: Wed Feb 2, 2000 10:18pm Subject:Re: 'c' code again
Hi John, no problems.
we have only about 30 odd members on SimmStick and there may be no CCS C
users.
piclist have a look on my links page near the top, or chat.html
Cheers Don...
John Orhan wrote:
>
> Hi Don,
> Please forgive my confusion. I thought that was the piclist. I will have
> another look on your website.
>
> Sincerely John Orhan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don McKenzie [mailto:don@d...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2000 5:01
> To: simmstick@e...
> Subject: [simmstick] Re: 'c' code again
>
> you are posting to a small group at SimmStick John, it's a start up
> group as an alternative to the sisusers group.
>
> I suggested the piclist to you, which has 1800 members.
> You will get plenty of answers there.
> I promise you. Would I lie? :-)
>
> Cheers Don...
>
> John Orhan wrote:
> >
> > What!
> > No one has any tips on the CCS 'c' compiler?
> >
> > Regards John
> >
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10-Feb-2000
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CC:
Kalle
Dealers
Newsletter
SimmStick group.
Hi Gang,
I have invited you all in the past to pop over and join the SimmStick
user group now set up:
Group Description:
Support for SimmStick, the 30 pin simm socket based Single Board
Computer System. Includes support for any hardware or software related
product.
Group email addresses:
Post Message simmstick@e...
Subscribe simmstick-subscribe@e...
Unsubscribe simmstick-unsubscribe@e...
List owner simmstick-owner@e...
I will be removing all links to this list ""sisuser@i..."
<sisuser@i...>" from today.
there has been some recent problems with the list, and to be fair, Kalle
has set up all of the lists on his site at no cost to the members, and
put in a lot time time to make sure it all goes well.
I'm not sure how long it has been, I guess about 3 years.
I wish to thank Kalle for setting up this list in the first place, and
putting up with all of us for so long.
Please read the privacy clauses in the egroups agreement. I'm not real
happy with it, but it's a free service.
Basically, consider a message on the new group as being much the same as
the front page of a newspaper, however egroups interpretation of this
even is open to question. If you wish to protect a design, don't post
information about it on egroups.
Having said that, I hope you can all come across and make SimmStick a
better product for all.
We have a lot of exciting designs on the way in the very near future,
and we are getting organized for the SimmStick Contest2000 also.
Chat doesn't have to be about SimmStick, it can be any hardware or
software related product that the Dontronics dealers are involved with.
I think we all have very similar interests.
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From: Graham Foote <graham.foote@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 9, 2000 11:36pm Subject:Interesting e-mail bounce
Something is very interesting with the handling of new subscriptions to
the group.
Today I subscribed and I recieved the following within 15 min. I't is
not a great concern to me as I can filter this out, I thought I would
just post this to highlight an event that has happened.
Graham
copy of email... (I have edited it, it was received Thu 10/02/2000 9:46)
From: Leon Blakeley
To: simmstick user group
Subject: [simmstick] (no subject)
subscribe
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CFA Communications
Ph (03) 9262....
Fax (03) 9262....
PO Box ####
Mt. Waverley
3149
yes, i sorted Leon out, no problems, but I have just checked the flags
and indeed only members can post. i did this to remove spam. How this
subscribe message got through, i have no idea. :-)
Cheers Don...
Graham Foote wrote:
>
> Something is very interesting with the handling of new subscriptions to
> the group.
> Today I subscribed and I recieved the following within 15 min. I't is
> not a great concern to me as I can filter this out, I thought I would
> just post this to highlight an event that has happened.
>
> Graham
>
> copy of email... (I have edited it, it was received Thu 10/02/2000 9:46)
>
> From: Leon Blakeley
> To: simmstick user group
> Subject: [simmstick] (no subject)
>
>
> subscribe
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From: Bob Puckett <bob@v...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2000 9:20pm Subject:features of the group
All,
There are a lot of features here! Very cool. One thing you might want
to look at - you can edit your membership record and have new postings
emailed to you instead of having to look at the web to check for new
stuff. It might be good to have one more last message go out to the
old list letting people know.
Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Puckett [mailto:bob@v...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 4:21 PM
> To: simmstick@e...
> Subject: [simmstick] features of the group
>
>
> All,
>
> There are a lot of features here! Very cool. One thing you
> might want
> to look at - you can edit your membership record and have new postings
> emailed to you instead of having to look at the web to check for new
> stuff. It might be good to have one more last message go out to the
> old list letting people know.
>
> Bob
>
This feature would be even nicer if they had a "digested" option.
If there is one, I haven't been able to find it.
Bob Puckett wrote:
>
> All,
>
> There are a lot of features here! Very cool. One thing you might want
> to look at - you can edit your membership record and have new postings
> emailed to you instead of having to look at the web to check for new
> stuff. It might be good to have one more last message go out to the
> old list letting people know.
I'll be posting from time to time on the old list Bob, but after about a
week, i will unsubscibe, and tell Kalle to shut the list down.
No problems with the poll. I don't have time to scratch myself right
now. :-)
also see:
http://www.dontronics.com/dt005.html
this is the start of a single board solution for:
http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
we hope it's a reality within about 2 months.
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There is a digested version option now.
Bob
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From: RMcIlvaine@t... [mailto:RMcIlvaine@t...]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:27 PM
To: simmstick@egroups.com
Subject: [simmstick] Re: features of the group
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Puckett [mailto:bob@v...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 4:21 PM
> To: simmstick@e...
> Subject: [simmstick] features of the group
>
>
> All,
>
> There are a lot of features here! Very cool. One thing you
> might want
> to look at - you can edit your membership record and have new postings
> emailed to you instead of having to look at the web to check for new
> stuff. It might be good to have one more last message go out to the
> old list letting people know.
>
> Bob
>
This feature would be even nicer if they had a "digested" option.
If there is one, I haven't been able to find it.
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From: Severson, Rob <severson@j...>
Date: Tue Feb 15, 2000 3:13pm Subject:PicList message
Don,
This piclist message is exactly what I'd like the SimmStick site to offer:
New SimmStick(tm) designs
Schematics for one-of designs (on protoboard)
How-tos and example projects
Example software
These are the types of things that I would like to offer to the SimmStick
platform.
Take care,
-Rob
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Yes we can add all these external chips on to do everything better BUT... do
we really need it? How much can we accomplish with the basic "virtual"
versions supplied by the chip, a cable, a PC with a GUI front panel and a
few passives alone? Audio frequency O'Scope and signal generator, a few MHz
for logic and functions, 1 or 2 variable regulated power supplies. Its
enough for most work AND... it would cost what? $10.00?
Right now, people are paying $30, $40, $50, $200 for PIC programmers alone
and "making do" with Radio Shaft DVMs and wall warts to get started with
PICs. I think we can give them much, much more for much, much less.
As a professional, I can always use another 'scope channel and it doesn't
have to be fast most of the time. The digital triggering and sample hold
ability would be a nice complement to my analog 'scope.
If the CUMP thing would take off, we could have groups of people supporting
the programming of a growing list of other processors, PIC and AVR and
others.
Beginners like Jon can see the logic of it. I keep hearing echoes of this
idea from so many different places its just impossible for me to keep my
mouth shut about it.
Its something the PICList community needs to come together on. Its an open
source, give back to the community thing that everyone will benefit from.
Somebody will make a PCB and kit and sell them and others will add routines
and add ons like PLLs and external RAM scopes and better more sensitive
analog front ends, etc... Someone will write and sell or give away a nice
IDE style PC GUI front end program.
But to start with, someone has to take a '877, take Stickleys register
monitor and extend it into a full monitor, setup timing and port pin capture
/ function generation routines and PC display / stimulus program, add the
A2D setup code, analog front end and PC front end program to display
captured traces, add the PWM output and signal generator code and PC program
for frequency, waveform and amplitude selection, add the regulator biasing
passives and incorporate the PWM output for that with the PC program to set
the voltage out and then people (come on CUMP) need to start adding the code
to program other devices.
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Glenn picxper-@y...
To: jamesnewto-@p...
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 20:00
Subject: RE: [PICLIST] An Idea....
> Wouldn't PLL be less processor-intensive for the function generator? I
know, it requires
> extra hardware, but maybe an expansion port on the development board...
>
> Also, won't you be needing some external RAM for the logic analyzer and
oscilloscope?
>
> -Randy Glenn
> E-Mail: picxper-@y...
> Web: http://i.am/PICxpert
>
> Currently wondering why I can't get in to Safe Mode - where's a Mac when
you need it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:piclis-@m...]On Behalf Of James Newton
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 6:31 PM
> To: piclis-@m...
> Subject: Re: [PICLIST] An Idea....
>
>
> Exactly! YES YES YES. See
> http://techref.massmind.org\idea\ebb.htm
> especially the last bullet point under "In the CUMP project"
>
> The upshot is that I think a $10 board consisting of a '877, MAX 232,
Analog
> front end, PWM output filters and power regulators could provide the
> following:
>
> Boot loader
> http://www.picnpoke.com/demo/ROMzap.zip
> http://www.htsoft.com/files/samples/bootldr.zip
>
> RS232 debugger / monitor?
>
> A port monitor
> Ralph Stickley had already implemented a program to monitor register
values
> over an available hardware serial port. His PC software polls the PIC with
> register numbers and receives a response via an ISR that consists of the
> current value of that register. You can get it at:
> http://www.piclist.com/stickleyregmon
> [note that] one of the registers is the program counter and others are the
> ports....
>
> Triggered high speed copy of pins to RAM with RS232 control / reporting
for
> a super simple logic analyzer (20MHz max ~300x8 samples or ~5Mhz and
~2400x1
> samples per trigger)?
>
> A/D support for pic o'scope (20uS per sample gives 0-25kHz, ~300x8 to
~600x4
> samples ) with display on PC via RS232?
> http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/shb7/posc.html Sean Hugh Breheny
started
> a higher end version of such a thing
> http://www.bitscope.com/ is a top end version. Not worth the extra cost
for
> this but interesting anyway.
>
> DVM (0 to 5v, 10bits = ~3 digits single channel via A/D or multiple
channel
> at lower res. via PWM capture with simple external hardware) display on PC
> via RS232?
> http://www.chipcenter.com/circuitcellar/november99/c119dp1.htm PIC Base
DVOM
> http://www.infosite.com/%7Ejkeyzer/piclist/2000/Feb/0623.html Wagners list
> of options on front ends.
>
> Function generator based on copy of RAM to port pins (20Mhz max ~300x8 or
> ~5Mhz and ~2400x1 steps) under PC control via RS232?
>
> Signal generator via PWM (?Hz low useful frequency ~300 waveform steps
with
> simple external hardware RC) under PC control via RS232?
> "Digital Frequency Synthesis" by Tom Napier in issue 99 (October 1998) of
> Circuit Cellar INK. Uses a PIC as a Digital Frequency Synthesizer. Richard
> Ottosen has developed an improved version for the Scenix SX
> ../scenix/sxncoex.zip
>
> Regulated variable power supply with intelligent current limiting.
> see also:
>
> http://www.picnpoke.com
> http://www.htsoft.com
> http://www.piclist.com/projects.htm
> http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/9595/
> http://204.210.50.240/techref/default.asp?url=tools.htm
>
> Anyway, you could develop right on [this board] and then port it to a
> (smaller, cheaper) target processor which [this board] programs, and
> stimulate and test via [this board] after the code is basically running.
>
> ---
> James Newton mailto:jamesnewto-@g... 1-619-652-0593
> http://techref.massmind.org NEW! FINALLY A REAL NAME!
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:piclis-@m...]On Behalf Of Jonathan Philpott
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 06:52
> To: piclis-@m...
> Subject: Re: An Idea....
>
>
> I was thinking of having a standard controlling
> program, that could use the idea to make a sort of
> "engineers mode" for debugging etc.
>
>
> --- Michael Rigby-Jones mrjone-@n...
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > I was thinking, would it be possible to have a PIC
> > > that could you could "talk" to via a serial port,
> > to
> > > give it commands... i was thinking something like
> > > this,
> > >
> > > When you connect to it, it just waits for input,
> > and
> > > gives a prompt:
> > >
> > > >_
> > >
> > > Then you can give it a command to turn on one of
> > the
> > > output lines, a simple one character command would
> > be
> > > enough, e.g "o" for on and "f" for off, so:
> > >
> > > >o1
> > >
> > > would turn on output line one, and f1 would turn
> > it
> > > off.
> > >
> > > Is this is possible?
> > >
> > > Jon
> > > --
> > >
> > Yes. Very easy actually, you could do this
> > on a tiny 12C508 with
> > room to spare, although you'd be limited to only 4
> > pins to control (2 power,
> > 2 serial). A bigger PIC or a shift register could
> > be used to increase the
> > number of lines available. But why stop there? You
> > could also have a
> > command to read in the state of an input, to change
> > an input to an output
> > and vice versa, toggle an output. It's all pretty
> > straightforward. Did you
> > have an application in mind?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
>
From: Leon Blakeley <l.blakeley@c...>
Date: Tue Feb 15, 2000 10:00pm Subject:Generating audio tones
Hi out there'
How do I generate reasonably clean sine waves in
the 400-800Hz range.
I would like to make a "pager encoder" for motorola B codes, ie two
sequential tones of 1.5 sec duration.
Tones have been selected to minimise"Harmonics" problems and so frequencies
like 569.1, 634.5 and 707.3 are used
we currently use an encoder that uses a programmable divider to generate
a squarewave that is "rounded" by vague filtering. This results in an output
with large variation in amplitude with frequency ie. between tone one and
tone two.
The pagers don't seem too fussy and respond to the present system but
there must be a better way.
Any clues?
Cheers
--
Leon Blakeley
CFA Communications
Ph (03) 92628400
Fax (03) 92628383
Hi out there'
How do I generate reasonably clean sine waves in the 400-800Hz
range.
I would like to make a "pager encoder" for motorola B codes, ie two
sequential tones of 1.5 sec duration.
Tones have been selected to minimise"Harmonics" problems and so
frequencies like 569.1, 634.5 and 707.3 are used
we currently use an encoder that uses a programmable divider to generate
a squarewave that is "rounded" by vague filtering. This results in an
output with large variation in amplitude with frequency ie. between
tone one and tone two.
The pagers don't seem too fussy and respond to the present system but
there must be a better way.
Any clues?
Yes, by far the simplest way is to use a lookup table. Since a sine is
symmetrical you only need a table for the first quadrant.
If the devices aren't too picky about wave shape than you can probably
get by with a small table. If you need higher accuracy use a larger
table and/or interpolate.
There are code examples for this on the PICList Archive site I think.
(www.piclist.com)
Hope this helps
Hi,
You can get something approximating a sine wave by integrating a ramp
wave. By ramp I mean a wave that goes from v+ to v- with a constant
slope, and then back again with the same (inverted) slope.
So you could create a function in an AVR or PIC that generates a ramp
with
the frequency you like, then use software to integrate this function to
get something that looks very much like a sine wave.
Eg.
direction = 1;
rampval = -10;
sineval = 0;
LABEL loopentry;
for a = 0 to 20
{
rampval += direction;
sineval += rampval;
delay();
}
direction = 0 - direction;
goto loopentry;
This is written in a mishmash of every programming language i can think
of, but you get the idea. It won't give you a 'proper' sinewave but it
will be pretty close.
The delay() function is there to set the frequency of the tone.
Changing
the amount of time the program spends in this function will change the
frequency.
This function will give a maximum of 100, and a minimum of -100 which
will
work well with an 8-bit D-A decoder.
The sineval value can be output directly to an 8-bit output port on
your
chip.
one thing to check is that the value won't 'creep' along each time the
program is run. I would use trial and error to fix this - it's just a
matter of how many loops you run before changing the direction
variable.
hth,
Ben
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> I recently 'inherited' a DT.001 (rev. A) and three PIC001 simmsticks.
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From: Mike Parkin <mparkin@i...>
Date: Sun Feb 20, 2000 6:08pm Subject:DT001 Assembly problems
One more newbie question
I have assembled a DT001 Rev C bd and I am trying to get it to work. SO
far I have not been successful. I believe it is just an assembly error.
Here are the symptoms.
When I power up the bd the PWR, 5V LED light up power is at 14V, 5V is
at 4.9V. Also the VPP LED is on but only dim. I look at the Q2 side of
R5 and reads @ 7V.
If I install a SIMMSTICK and flip the sw to LOAD the VDD light comes on.
The instructions say that these light should only come on momentarily.
and Flicker when programming. This does not happen. The LEDS stay on
steady. I use picprg32 to try and program and I get verify errors (
the PIC is always 3FFF.
Any clues or places to start looking ?
Thanks
Mike Parkin
Hi,
You can get something approximating a sine wave by integrating a ramp
wave. By ramp I mean a wave that goes from v+ to v- with a constant
slope, and then back again with the same (inverted) slope.
So you could create a function in an AVR or PIC that generates a ramp with
the frequency you like, then use software to integrate this function to
get something that looks very much like a sine wave.
Eg.
direction = 1;
rampval = -10;
sineval = 0;
LABEL loopentry;
for a = 0 to 20
{
rampval += direction;
sineval += rampval;
delay();
}
direction = 0 - direction;
goto loopentry;
This is written in a mishmash of every programming language i can think
of, but you get the idea. It won't give you a 'proper' sinewave but it
will be pretty close.
The delay() function is there to set the frequency of the tone. Changing
the amount of time the program spends in this function will change the
frequency.
This function will give a maximum of 100, and a minimum of -100 which will
work well with an 8-bit D-A decoder.
The sineval value can be output directly to an 8-bit output port on your
chip.
one thing to check is that the value won't 'creep' along each time the
program is run. I would use trial and error to fix this - it's just a
matter of how many loops you run before changing the direction variable.
hth,
Ben
> Hi out there'
> <br> How do I generate reasonably clean sine waves in
> the 400-800Hz range.
> <br>I would like to make a "pager encoder" for motorola B codes, ie two
> sequential tones of 1.5 sec duration.
> <br>Tones have been selected to minimise"Harmonics" problems and so frequencies
> like 569.1, 634.5 and 707.3 are used
> <br>we currently use an encoder that uses a programmable divider to generate
> a squarewave that is "rounded" by vague filtering. This results in an output
> with large variation in amplitude with frequency ie. between tone one and
> tone two.
> <br>The pagers don't seem too fussy and respond to the present system but
> there must be a better way.
> <br>Any clues?
> <p>Cheers
> <p>--
> <br>Leon Blakeley
> <br>CFA Communications
> <br>Ph (03) 92628400
> <br>Fax (03) 92628383
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I recently 'inherited' a DT.001 (rev. A) and three PIC001 simmsticks.
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availiable for it now?
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I am a newbie to this pic stuff. I have assembled a DT001 Rev C board
to program SIMMSTICKS. I have a DT101 Rev A with a 16F84 and 4M
resonator installed ( I also have the MAX232 circuit on board).
I found picprg.2.2 and tried to compile it under Linux2.2.12 (GLIBC) and
it puked. The errors are in the attachment. Has anyone complied this and
got it working under 2.2.12?
Any help is appreiciated.
Rgds,
Mike Parkin
In file included from lowlvl.c:44:
picprg.h:25: parse error before `uint'
picprg.h:25: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union
picprg.h:26: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `IDaddr'
picprg.h:26: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
picprg.h:27: parse error before `EEaddr'
picprg.h:27: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `EEaddr'
picprg.h:27: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
picprg.h:38: parse error before `}'
lowlvl.c: In function `outb':
lowlvl.c:130: warning: implicit declaration of function `ioperm'
lowlvl.c: In function `biton':
lowlvl.c:187: warning: implicit declaration of function `LP_B'
lowlvl.c:187: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `bitoff':
lowlvl.c:201: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `inbit':
lowlvl.c:215: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:217: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:217: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:218: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:220: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:220: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:221: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:223: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
lowlvl.c: In function `vppon':
lowlvl.c:228: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:228: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `vppoff':
lowlvl.c:234: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:234: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `vddon':
lowlvl.c:240: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:240: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `vddoff':
lowlvl.c:246: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:246: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `clkhi':
lowlvl.c:252: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:252: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `clklo':
lowlvl.c:258: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:258: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `outhi':
lowlvl.c:264: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:264: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `outlo':
lowlvl.c:270: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:270: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `init_port':
lowlvl.c:355: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:365: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:368: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:370: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:375: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:376: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:377: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `verify_pic':
lowlvl.c:452: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:452: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:494: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:494: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:537: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:541: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:542: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:545: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:546: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:553: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:556: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `program_pic':
lowlvl.c:682: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:682: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:728: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:728: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:794: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:801: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:805: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:805: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:808: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:808: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:814: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:817: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c: In function `read_pic':
lowlvl.c:883: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:883: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:911: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:911: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:938: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:943: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
lowlvl.c:946: invalid use of undefined type `struct _pconfig'
make: *** [lowlvl.o] Error 1
