>

Watch out for expresspcb.  Unless something has improved with them, it
cannot generate a board layout with a clear background for printing on
a laser printer for home board manufacture.  All I could get out of it was
gray backgrounds.  The idea is that you send the design file to them to
manufacture the boards.  Too bad, it was one of the easiest packages to
create 2 layer boards that I have tried.

I'd suggest eagle (mentioned earlier).
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> Message: 4
>    Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:27:11 -0500
>    From: "McIlvaine, Robert" <rmcilvaine@z...>
> Subject: RE: Schematic capture/PC board layout
>
> I can't recommend a combo, but, here's a free PCB layout package.
>
> http://www.expresspcb.com/
>
> >
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:34:28 -0500
> >    From: Len Schaier <lschaier@a...>
> > Subject: Schematic capture/PC board layout
> >
> > I'm looking for a reasonably priced ( I guess that means
> > cheap) schematic
> > capture -PC board layout program combination that will do
> > double sided
> > boards. I'd like an output to a laser jet printer (or inkjet for that
> > matter) so I can do easy transfer of the foil pattern to copper.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >

27-Jan-2001 Updated
Pick of the PIC PIC's. Pictures of Industry People.
http://www.dontronics.com/ppp.html

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Hi Dave,

I created the SIMM101, incase you wonder.

> Once the SIMM101 PCB is programmed, do you still need a motherboard
> and/or power supply or can it run on its own?  If it can run on its own,
> can I still use the RS-232 feature?

All SimmStick boards with a microcontroller can run "solo" or with
a mother board. If you don't want a mother boards, supply it with
either VCC (+5VDC PIN7) plus GND (PIN9) according to the SimmBus
connectors, if you do it this way, remove jumper on board. The other
way is to supply it with 7 to 15VDC (PIN4 marked PWR) and GND (PIN9),
then you need to install the jumper.

The RS232 is feed out on A1/A2, so yes, hook that up to your system.

Have a look at the schematics and all info is there:
http://www.lawicel.com/simmstick/simm101/

> I see that on the board there's a VCC on the upper left corner... so that is why I ask.
> If it can't run on its own, what would be the best solution if I only need to use the SIMM101?

Those are for your prototyping help. Meaning those 5 holes marked in a
square have +5VDC (if you have supplied +5V or the PWR as described
above) for you to use with your own hardware. Same as the 6 holes
marked GND. Mind though that if you use the on board 7805 voltage
regulator, it has a max power of 100mA/5V, so if you need more than
that, you need to open the jumper and feed the board with an external
voltage regulator.

/Lars

Actually, if it's not too much trouble, maybe you can help me out.
I need a circuit that basically will do the following.

IF a constant voltage from another source (which would be 5V)
THEN device 'A' is sent 12V/700mA (supplied by a separate power 
source)
IF (program from PC says so, via rs-232) THEN device 'B' is sent
12V/~200mA (supplied from somewhere else).

They may be both off or both on.

Would the Simm101 be a possible solution?  Could you recommend any 
type of relays or switches to use on the board?


--- In simmstick@y..., "Lars Wictorsson" <lars@l...> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> I created the SIMM101, incase you wonder.
> 
> > Once the SIMM101 PCB is programmed, do you still need a 
motherboard
> > and/or power supply or can it run on its own?  If it can run on 
its own,
> > can I still use the RS-232 feature?
> 
> All SimmStick boards with a microcontroller can run "solo" or with
> a mother board. If you don't want a mother boards, supply it with
> either VCC (+5VDC PIN7) plus GND (PIN9) according to the SimmBus
> connectors, if you do it this way, remove jumper on board. The other
> way is to supply it with 7 to 15VDC (PIN4 marked PWR) and GND 
(PIN9),
> then you need to install the jumper.
> 
> The RS232 is feed out on A1/A2, so yes, hook that up to your system.
> 
> Have a look at the schematics and all info is there:
> http://www.lawicel.com/simmstick/simm101/
> 
> > I see that on the board there's a VCC on the upper left corner... 
so that is why I ask.
> > If it can't run on its own, what would be the best solution if I 
only need to use the SIMM101?
> 
> Those are for your prototyping help. Meaning those 5 holes marked 
in a
> square have +5VDC (if you have supplied +5V or the PWR as described
> above) for you to use with your own hardware. Same as the 6 holes
> marked GND. Mind though that if you use the on board 7805 voltage
> regulator, it has a max power of 100mA/5V, so if you need more than
> that, you need to open the jumper and feed the board with an 
external
> voltage regulator.
> 
> /Lars

Hello all who are using simmsticks,

We are looking at adding a SIMM30 connector to some of our products, both
as a slave I/O device and as a master. We would really like to use some
standard package and pinout, as there are plenty of random proprietary
interfaces out there already without us adding another. 

I have some questions:

1) the non-standardness of the simmstick "standard" is confusing. I
downloaded various "simmstick" product data, seemingly most with
incompatible pinouts. For example, RS232 levels on pins 1 & 2, which are
adddress lines on other simmsticks. Sending RS232 to an address input seems
like a good way to damage something. Which pinout should we support, or do
our own and add to the confusion? Is there any effort to really standardize
a simmstick pinout? How do people deal with this now? We're intending the
product to be used by people who do not want to be cutting traces or
resoldering to get different modules to work together.

2) We may do a 3.3V product, and are wondering how many existing peripheral
simmsticks will work with ours if it has 5V tolerant I/O and TTL
thresholds, or if anyone else is doing 3.3V work with simmsticks.

3) I sent AMP SIMM30 part numbers from AMP catalog 82172 to two major
distis, ALL came back as obsolete with no replacements. They crossed some
to Molex, but they too came back as obsolete with no replacements. We're
continuing to check on this, maybe AMP and Molex just changed all their
part numbers and didn't tell anyone. We're aware of other vendors but it's
disturbing if the mainline ones are leaving the market. We just received a
new Power Dynamics catalog #17, all SIMM products are gone. Since SIMM30 is
no longer used in PCs I am wondering how much longer they will be
available. Are the good sources for SIMM30 vertical and angled with metal
latches?

Thanks in advance

Bruce Boyes
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http://www.avrfreaks.net
new interesting site.

rumor I have is that it is run by atmel.

I know Mark (MCS) and Lars (Lawicell) are aware, others may wish to join
that have avr products.
Cheers Don...

Bruce Boyes wrote:

> 1) the non-standardness of the simmstick "standard" is confusing. I
> downloaded various "simmstick" product data, seemingly most with
> incompatible pinouts. For example, RS232 levels on pins 1 & 2, which are
> adddress lines on other simmsticks. Sending RS232 to an address input seems
> like a good way to damage something. Which pinout should we support, or do
> our own and add to the confusion? Is there any effort to really standardize
> a simmstick pinout? How do people deal with this now? We're intending the
> product to be used by people who do not want to be cutting traces or
> resoldering to get different modules to work together.

hi Bruce,
The idea of user defined pinouts means just that. If users want to send
video, negative voltages or whatever down these lines, then it is up to
them. it is also up to them to cater for the changes from one SimmStick
to another, this may mean a special motherboard or a jumpered
motherboard, but not cut tracks and jumpers on SimmSticks.

The alternative is to say, "No user defined signals".
I know we have started using these lines for what I know we would both
feel is standard signals such as RS-232 levels, but with 30 only pins,
you can't assign pins 1 and 2 to this function without loosing the lines
as user defined.

The defined motherboard is the only simple method of using many
SimmStick devices on the one bus, and catering for any and all user
defined signals.

> 2) We may do a 3.3V product, and are wondering how many existing peripheral
> simmsticks will work with ours if it has 5V tolerant I/O and TTL
> thresholds, or if anyone else is doing 3.3V work with simmsticks.

Now that one I can't answer, as to my knowledge, no one has designed a
3.3v system to date.
TTL .8v to 2.4 isn't it. no doubt anything that is considered standard
TTL should work.

> 3) I sent AMP SIMM30 part numbers from AMP catalog 82172 to two major
> distis, ALL came back as obsolete with no replacements. They crossed some
> to Molex, but they too came back as obsolete with no replacements. We're
> continuing to check on this, maybe AMP and Molex just changed all their
> part numbers and didn't tell anyone. We're aware of other vendors but it's
> disturbing if the mainline ones are leaving the market. We just received a
> new Power Dynamics catalog #17, all SIMM products are gone. Since SIMM30 is
> no longer used in PCs I am wondering how much longer they will be
> available.

We have also found sockets getting harder to obtain. No doubt 72 and
larger pin counts will also become scarce in future. You can purchase
large volumes from some factories in China. They will make them if the
order is large enough. The dontronics dealers should have ample supply
of sockets. I know myself and Ben Wirz have.

 Are the good sources for SIMM30 vertical and angled with metal
> latches?

perhaps users have some feedback on sockets and sources that may help
Bruce and others.

Don...



> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Bruce Boyes
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Bruce Boyes wrote:
> 
> Hello all who are using simmsticks

> available. Are the good sources for SIMM30 vertical and angled with metal
> latches?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Bruce Boyes

Oh, I just remembered. The reason I decided to continue with the 30 pin
form factor, even though sockets may not be as easy to find, is the 30
holes just behind the 30 pads of the edge connector.
male/female right-angle/straight combinations of pin strips can be used. 
and these are always get-able.

see:
http://www.dontronics.com/simcon.html

Don...

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Dear friends,

I am presently working on a project concerning remote data acquisition.
It consists of one AVR AT90S8535 mounted on a SIM100 connected to a 
telephone line via a modem thru' the J4, and a PC connected to another 
telephone line and a modem.I am using the TTY or the hyperterminal programs 
to dial the AVR and once connection is made the user can instruct the AVR to 
either close/open a relay or read a value and send it back to the PC.
For the time being the PC and the AVR are both in the same room but 
connected to the different telephone lines.This allows me to easily program 
the AVR and see the results.
The problem I am facing is that once the AVR is programmed by the BA1FB 
Programmer via my parallel port, it starts sending data and this prevents 
the connection to be made b/w the PC and the AVR. In fact the RD and SD leds 
on my AVR Modem light up. I suppose that there must be data flow b/w the AVR 
and the AVR Modem.
The programming language is Javr Basic and Assembly.I have partially solved 
the problem by including a delay of say 30s in the initialisation 
routine.Thus I have 30s after programming to connect to the AVR.However when 
I try to connect the second time the AVR is still sending data and this 
prevents connection.
Is there any way in which we can prevent the AVR from sending data by 
software until connection is made? I suppose the present problem is that the 
software is locked in a loop and is continuously looking for any character 
from the modem. The part of the software is given below.

Do
      If EOL1
      Call Response
      End If
Loop

I would highly appreciate if you could extend your help to me.


Salim Hoolash.

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Having recently completed an RS232 video terminal with 20 characters 
by 12 lines all in software on an 8535/SIMM100 I'm after a new 
challenge. Don and I have discussed doing an LCD emulator with 
PAL/NTSC video output. Wire it up to your project as you would an 
LCD, select the emulation (16x1, 16x2, 20x1 etc) and watch what would 
be your lcd output on video. Then try your design on different lcd 
without actually buying different lcd. Any interest ? If so I'll give 
it a go.

Ingmar

At 13:42 2/13/2001 +1100, you wrote:
>Oh, I just remembered. The reason I decided to continue with the 30 pin
>form factor, even though sockets may not be as easy to find, is the 30
>holes just behind the 30 pads of the edge connector.
>male/female right-angle/straight combinations of pin strips can be used. 
>and these are always get-able.

I agree, that's a nice feature.

PDI may still do SIMM connectors, I found them on their web site although
they are missing from the latest catalog. Will check on availability and
advise.

Bruce
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-----------------------------------------

Hi Bruce,

         If you are just looking for small qty, then our connector kit is 
good way to start:

http://www.wirz.com/products/0189/index.html

         If need larger qtys, contact me off the list.

-Ben



At 09:47 AM 2/13/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>At 13:42 2/13/2001 +1100, you wrote:
> >Oh, I just remembered. The reason I decided to continue with the 30 pin
> >form factor, even though sockets may not be as easy to find, is the 30
> >holes just behind the 30 pads of the edge connector.
> >male/female right-angle/straight combinations of pin strips can be used.
> >and these are always get-able.
>
>I agree, that's a nice feature.
>
>PDI may still do SIMM connectors, I found them on their web site although
>they are missing from the latest catalog. Will check on availability and
>advise.
>
>Bruce
>-----------------------------------------
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>  new! 8x1-Wire I/O board for 1-Wire nets
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>-----------------------------------------
>
>
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>
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At 16:15 2/13/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Bruce,
>
>         If you are just looking for small qty, then our connector kit is 
>good way to start:
>
>http://www.wirz.com/products/0189/index.html
>
>         If need larger qtys, contact me off the list.
>
>-Ben

Yes, I have one of your kits.

We're looking to buy thousands of sockets this year if this all works out,
hence our interest in a good source. Right now PDI is the best option. Do
you have others?

Thanks

Bruce
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Wow! Sounds terrific! 
But I hope the cost wouldn't be more than 2 LCD's :)

Cheers,
Mert

intello@o... wrote:

> --------------------------------------------- 
>	Attachment:  
>	MIME Type: multipart/alternative 
> --------------------------------------------- 
> Having recently completed an RS232 video terminal with 20 characters 
> by 12 lines all in software on an 8535/SIMM100 I'm after a new 
> challenge. Don and I have discussed doing an LCD emulator with 
> PAL/NTSC video output. Wire it up to your project as you would an 
> LCD, select the emulation (16x1, 16x2, 20x1 etc) and watch what would 
> be your lcd output on video. Then try your design on different lcd 
> without actually buying different lcd. Any interest ? If so I'll give 
> it a go.
> 
> Ingmar
> 
> 


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Jameco has them.  Fun place to order from.
www.jameco.com
http://www.jameco.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=91&prrfnbr=2518&cgrfnbr=501&ctgys=

30PIN,SIMM,
Part No. 100301
Product No. 00100301
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1 + 0.79
10 + 0.65
100 +  0.49
                       -Memory module sockets
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simmstick@yahoogroups.com wrote:
   Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:47:42 -0700
   From: Bruce Boyes <bboyes@s...>
Subject: Re: SIMM30 connector sources

At 13:42 2/13/2001 +1100, you wrote:
>Oh, I just remembered. The reason I decided to continue with the 30 pin
>form factor, even though sockets may not be as easy to find, is the 30
>holes just behind the 30 pads of the edge connector.
>male/female right-angle/straight combinations of pin strips can be used.
>and these are always get-able.

I agree, that's a nice feature.

PDI may still do SIMM connectors, I found them on their web site although
they are missing from the latest catalog. Will check on availability and
advise.

Bruce
-----------------------------------------
           WWW.SYSTRONIX.COM
 Fast 8051s, embedded Java and much more
 new! 8x1-Wire I/O board for 1-Wire nets
  +1-801-534-1017  Salt Lake City, USA
-----------------------------------------

intello@o... wrote:

> Don and I have discussed doing an LCD emulator with
> PAL/NTSC video output.

My 2p thought's.

It might be useful to have a hardware device emulating an LCD from the interface side.
But it might not be necessary with video out, and an extra monitor to display the "LCD" contents
Why not just use a serial port out of your emulator board, and use a polling program on a PC to display the LCD contents in a window ?

(Other communication methods/formats might also come handy I2C, CAN etc.)

--
MVH/Regards Henrik Wahlberg,

Hi All,

I wanted to know how the compiled code is transferred to the 
micro-contorller flash memory ?In other words,how can I use my own compiler 
to transfer the executable to the flash memory area in the microcontroller 
without going for the BASCOM-AVR or the COdeVision C compiler ?

Thanks,
Rahul
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"Rahul D." wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I wanted to know how the compiled code is transferred to the
> micro-contorller flash memory ?In other words,how can I use my own compiler
> to transfer the executable to the flash memory area in the microcontroller
> without going for the BASCOM-AVR or the COdeVision C compiler ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rahul

With a programmer, this can be as simple as 5 wires hooked up to your PC
printer port.
there are many programmers and software drivers on the web.
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html
is just one of them.
http://www.dontronics.com/atmel.html
will give you many others.

BTW http://www.avrfreaks.net is a new AVR Site of interest.

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Dear friends,

I am presently working on a project concerning remote data acquisition.
It consists of one AVR AT90S8535 mounted on a SIM100 connected to a 
telephone line via a modem thru' the J4, and a PC connected to another 
telephone line and a modem.I am using the TTY or the hyperterminal programs 
to dial the AVR and once connection is made the user can instruct the AVR to 
either close/open a relay or read a value and send it back to the PC.
For the time being the PC and the AVR are both in the same room but 
connected to the different telephone lines.This allows me to easily program 
the AVR and see the results.
The problem I am facing is that once the AVR is programmed by the BA1FB 
Programmer via my parallel port, it starts sending data and this prevents 
the connection to be made b/w the PC and the AVR. In fact the RD and SD leds 
on my AVR Modem light up. I suppose that there must be data flow b/w the AVR 
and the AVR Modem.
The programming language is Javr Basic and Assembly.I have partially solved 
the problem by including a delay of say 30s in the initialisation 
routine.Thus I have 30s after programming to connect to the AVR.However when 
I try to connect the second time the AVR is still sending data and this 
prevents connection.
Is there any way in which we can prevent the AVR from sending data by 
software until connection is made? I suppose the present problem is that the 
software is locked in a loop and is continuously looking for any character 
from the modem. The part of the software is given below.

Do
      If EOL1
      Call Response
      End If
Loop

I would highly appreciate if you could extend your help to me.


Salim Hoolash.

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Salim,

Have you run this code in AVR Studio to see what is really happening. That
way you have control over whether the AVR UART says there is a character or
not etc. That is the first thing I would do.

I am using the 8535 and serial I/O (in polled , not interrupt mode) in a
couple of projects and there is no problem.

Maybe you'd like to send me some code and I'll have a look for you. You can
be guaranteed of non-disclosure.

Ingmar
(Australia)
Xintello@o... (remove the X and X)

-----Original Message-----
From: Salim Hoolash [mailto:paccoro@h...]
Sent: Monday, 19 February 2001 6:32 PM
To: simmstick@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [simmstick] Remote Data Acquisition using 2 modems



Dear friends,

I am presently working on a project concerning remote data acquisition.
It consists of one AVR AT90S8535 mounted on a SIM100 connected to a
telephone line via a modem thru' the J4, and a PC connected to another
telephone line and a modem.I am using the TTY or the hyperterminal programs
to dial the AVR and once connection is made the user can instruct the AVR to
either close/open a relay or read a value and send it back to the PC.
For the time being the PC and the AVR are both in the same room but
connected to the different telephone lines.This allows me to easily program
the AVR and see the results.
The problem I am facing is that once the AVR is programmed by the BA1FB
Programmer via my parallel port, it starts sending data and this prevents
the connection to be made b/w the PC and the AVR. In fact the RD and SD leds
on my AVR Modem light up. I suppose that there must be data flow b/w the AVR
and the AVR Modem.
The programming language is Javr Basic and Assembly.I have partially solved
the problem by including a delay of say 30s in the initialisation
routine.Thus I have 30s after programming to connect to the AVR.However when
I try to connect the second time the AVR is still sending data and this
prevents connection.
Is there any way in which we can prevent the AVR from sending data by
software until connection is made? I suppose the present problem is that the
software is locked in a loop and is continuously looking for any character
from the modem. The part of the software is given below.

Do
      If EOL1
      Call Response
      End If
Loop

I would highly appreciate if you could extend your help to me.


Salim Hoolash.

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Thanks Ingmar
have posted it

21-Feb-2001 
DS1302 from port d on an 8535 (SIMM100), written in asm using AVRA
assembler. by Ingmar Meins 
http://www.dontronics.com/rtc.html#8535 

Cheers Don...

Ingmar Meins wrote:
> 
> Don,
> 
> Attached is a working set of routines to talk to the DS1302 from port d on
> an 8535 (SIMM100), written in asm using AVRA assembler.
> 
> You mentioned you were short on example code in ASM for the device when used
> with the AVR.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ingmar
> 
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Cheers Don...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Boyes" <bboyes@s...>
To: <simmstick@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 10:56 PM
Subject: [simmstick] SIMM30 connector sources, 3.3V vs 5.0V


>
> 3) I sent AMP SIMM30 part numbers from AMP catalog 82172 to two major
> distis, ALL came back as obsolete with no replacements. They crossed some
> to Molex, but they too came back as obsolete with no replacements. We're
> continuing to check on this, maybe AMP and Molex just changed all their
> part numbers and didn't tell anyone. We're aware of other vendors but it's
> disturbing if the mainline ones are leaving the market. We just received a
> new Power Dynamics catalog #17, all SIMM products are gone. Since SIMM30
is
> no longer used in PCs I am wondering how much longer they will be
> available. Are the good sources for SIMM30 vertical and angled with metal
> latches?

I got my last batch from RS Components. No markings but listed as AMP.
They're marked as In Stock on the website. UKP1.89 in small quantities.
Part number is 217-6474

www.rswww.com
They have branches or distributors in most parts of the world.

















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Hi, I am new to pic microcontrollers (but not to microprocessors,
programming, hardware, soldering ..) and have a problem.
 I did some tests with multi-meter, everything seems to be working, but
WPICPROG877 (V1.71) reads always 0000... Trying to program the chip it
sais program verify failed on line 0. Perhaps its astonishing, too, that
the software cannot find the port, if the programmer is switched to
LOAD, but can find it switched to RUN. Another thing is, that the Vpp is
dark with the default settings and flickers only with Vpp40 switched
from D4 to D3.

P16PRO always answers check power connections and port, exeption: the
programmer is in RUN mode, then it reads 3FFF...

I have a second F877 but dare not put it in....

Please help me, I hope that some-one gets my message in a bottle...

Frank Simon

Frank Simon wrote:
> 
> Hi, I am new to pic microcontrollers (but not to microprocessors,
> programming, hardware, soldering ..) and have a problem.
>  I did some tests with multi-meter, everything seems to be working, but
> WPICPROG877 (V1.71) reads always 0000... Trying to program the chip it
> sais program verify failed on line 0. Perhaps its astonishing, too, that
> the software cannot find the port, if the programmer is switched to
> LOAD, but can find it switched to RUN. Another thing is, that the Vpp is
> dark with the default settings and flickers only with Vpp40 switched
> from D4 to D3.
> 
> P16PRO always answers check power connections and port, exeption: the
> programmer is in RUN mode, then it reads 3FFF...
> 
> I have a second F877 but dare not put it in....
> 
> Please help me, I hope that some-one gets my message in a bottle...
> 
> Frank Simon

Not sure what WPICPROG877 (V1.71) is, perhaps i should know.
however if p16pro can't find the programmer then you have a voltage
problem, or more likely a setup problem.

have you set it up for the dt001?
there is a lot of on line help in the help file, and test procedures
that should get you to the stage of finding the programmer. if the
software doesn't find the programmer, then you don't need to put the 877
in the socket.

Cheers Don...

Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com

The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and Software
Free Basic Compiler and Programmer http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html

In message <3AB3F772.7D6E3ADA@d...>, Don McKenzie
<don@d...> writes
>
>
>Frank Simon wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I am new to pic microcontrollers (but not to microprocessors,
>> programming, hardware, soldering ..) and have a problem.
>>  I did some tests with multi-meter, everything seems to be working, but
>> WPICPROG877 (V1.71) reads always 0000... Trying to program the chip it
>> sais program verify failed on line 0. Perhaps its astonishing, too, that
>> the software cannot find the port, if the programmer is switched to
>> LOAD, but can find it switched to RUN. Another thing is, that the Vpp is
>> dark with the default settings and flickers only with Vpp40 switched
>> from D4 to D3.
>> 
>> P16PRO always answers check power connections and port, exeption: the
>> programmer is in RUN mode, then it reads 3FFF...
>> 
>> I have a second F877 but dare not put it in....
>> 
>> Please help me, I hope that some-one gets my message in a bottle...
>> 
>> Frank Simon
>
>Not sure what WPICPROG877 (V1.71) is, perhaps i should know.

You certainly should Don :-). It's the latest 32 bit version of my
programming software (released 18 Jan 2001).

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In message <3AB3BD18.7E84595F@1...>, Frank Simon
<frank@s...> writes
>Hi, I am new to pic microcontrollers (but not to microprocessors,
>programming, hardware, soldering ..) and have a problem.
> I did some tests with multi-meter, everything seems to be working, but
>WPICPROG877 (V1.71) reads always 0000... Trying to program the chip it
>sais program verify failed on line 0. Perhaps its astonishing, too, that
>the software cannot find the port, if the programmer is switched to
>LOAD, but can find it switched to RUN. Another thing is, that the Vpp is
>dark with the default settings and flickers only with Vpp40 switched
>from D4 to D3.

Hi Frank,

The usual cause of verify error on line 0000 is that the chip isn't in
programming mode, and from your later comment this appears to be so. The
Vpp40 pin is for the P16PRO40 hardware, for the SimmStick programmer set
it to the same pin as the Vpp setting - it will then use the same Vpp
output line for both types of chips.

If it can't find the programmer, it sounds like you have the pin
connections set wrongly, try manually checking them and toggling with
the buttons on the hardware window.

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Nigel.

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