It's been nearly 12 months since I've posted. Other things on my mind.
I have had occasion to to comment on belief in God in a discussion group again. It's a funny subject. So here are some of my thoughts.
Years ago I asked my wife if she believed in God. She replied "when it suits me". I really liked that answer. Sometimes the God concept is useful. She doesn't much care for philosophical discourse, nor does she really care if God really exists. In practice she has little use for the concept.
Meanwhile, I'm down at the pub on some friday night, enjoying conversation with some work colleagues. After a few beers, for some reason we start talking about whether God exists. My irish mate says - yes of course God exists. He is catholic, but doesn't really go to church except for the usual ceremonies. I carried on about why I didn't believe (supported by Dawkins & Hitchens and some others). One of his responses was "but if there is no God, what is the basis for being good, for moral behaviour". And therein lies the issue for many people. The usefulness of the God concept is that it seems to provide a reason to behave decently, otherwise we would all, presumably be evil ratbags. Hitchens and Dawkins tackle some of this if I recall correctly, but it is tackled head on in Daniel Dennett's book "Breaking The Spell - Religion as a Natural Phenomenon", and provides his arguments for why he believes the idea that religion is a necessary foundation for morality can no longer be supported.
Nevertheless, I suspect that many perfectly nice people believe in God (in some form or another), because they cannot imagine how you could control bad behaviour without recourse to a supernatural authority. So it is up to atheists, agnostics and otherwise couldn't-care-less-about-it people to show why that is not the case. On the other hand, maybe some people really need something like a personal belief in a personal God (or some other definition of God) to give them meaning, purpose, a sense of self or whatever else they feel they need to make life worth living. (Personally, I think all we need is a really good relationship with a few people who matter to us)
Now my brother in law just thinks believing in any kind of God is just a form of mental and character weakness. So there you go.
By the way, my own definition of God, as in when I ask someone if he or she believes in one, is a supernatural being or beings whom you ought to be trying to please, who is capable of a personally engaging with humans, and who is the reason that anything exists at all. I reckon that's how most people conceive of God, or something similar to that. Such a creature would give me the shivers, yet that is what is at the heart of Christianity, Islam and Judaism. I finish with a quote from Sigmund Freud (taken from Dennett's aforementioned book)
"Philosophers stretch the meaning of words until they retain scarcely anything of their original sense; by calling "God" some vague abstraction which they have created for themselves, they pose as deists, as believers, before the world; they may even pride themselves on having attained a higher and purer idea of God, although their God is nothing but an insubstantial shadow and no longer the might personality of religious doctrine" - from "The Future of an Illusion".People will believe in God if they want to. There is nothing much new to be said about God's existence or otherwise. My hope is that one day religion will be just another personal hobby, like stamp collecting. So when I ask my mate down at the pub whether he believes in God, and he says yes, then everyone yawns, we say in unison "that's nice, what colour?" - and then we order another round and talk about politics.